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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Well you may have gotten dumber, but interspersed in your<br />

teaching, and I've read a lot of stuff in the last five years, and this<br />

is what I think about all the time, you have your own little juicy<br />

way of adding in these little pieces that, maybe they're not unique<br />

to you, but they're the first time that I've encountered it. And I'll<br />

give you a little example for our listeners, like for example you say<br />

we experience a car as if it exists all by itself, now that's not exactly<br />

earth shattering. But you say on its own side, independent of<br />

thought and the rest of the universe. That sense of things being<br />

over there on their own side. A little phrase like that can unlock<br />

the mind.<br />

WIZARD: It's fresh, ever fresh.<br />

TRIP: Yes.<br />

WIZARD: Of the living spirit.<br />

SCOTT KILOBY: Go ahead; did you have some questions on that?<br />

TRIP: Well I just think that each teacher, or you may not call<br />

yourself a teacher, but each person that has something to share<br />

brings these unique little tit-bits that have a way of unlocking little<br />

obstructions in the mind of the reader whoever they are and you<br />

never know which one's going to do it, so it's great to expose<br />

yourself to lots of different stuff.<br />

SCOTT KILOBY: Absolutely. And one of my friends, past<br />

teachers, but really a friend is Greg Goode, and he introduced me<br />

to Mahayana Buddhism, and they speak that way often about<br />

inherent existence, things existing on their own side, which I really<br />

think that's what happening, but until we see that the force of<br />

thought is behind those objects coming from our side, just as<br />

much as anything, and then you start to look at the world that way,<br />

that really started to open things up for me. Because in just a<br />

phenomenal relative experience of having friends and having a<br />

father, or whatever, I noticed that when I look for the objective<br />

father or the objective friend that existed on its own side, I<br />

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