Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
line it would just be some thought that the mind is superimposing,
it would say, you would have another idea. But when you're
looking without thought, you're just seeing color and color just
appears inseparably within the space that you are. And then even
if you went to touch the chair, because people say, okay I get that,
but then I go to touch the chair, because that's what makes it feel
like a separate object. But if you feel, your fingertips never talk,
they never say I'm touching a chair, they merely experience
softness or some other tactile sensation. They never superimpose
an object on the other side of that sensation, they just have the raw
sensation, and that raw sensation is happening within the
awareness too.
So we start to see that all objects are like that, that they're being
experience as objects because we have thoughts and sensations
happening inseparably within awareness. But that becomes like
this really beautiful discovery in your life, you walk around and I
tell people, try to find a separate object, just try it. And you might
find a thought here and a sensation there, or even an emotion
there, but you never find the object, you only find those things,
and all those things are happening inseparably within the
awareness that you are. That takes them through the third part of
it, which is the inseparability or nonduality.
WIZARD: Wow, absolutely we're looking at a blue chair in the
studio here.
TRIP: When you read his work, and it's full of exercises to do, but
they're very simple, you can do them right from the chair where
you're at while you're reading the work and you just able to move
from conceptual thought and away from conceptual thought. And
then that's really pleasurable, and then you go back to some really
juice conceptual edification, and then you go back to letting go of
it. It's a wonderful flow back and forth.
WIZARD: Remember the book, Be Here Now, A mandala with
just a chair sitting there in the middle, just not saying anything.
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