Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
like, as I say, in the Natural Rest book, they're like ripples on a
pond. It's like you're the pond, and you're completely still, and
you're fine and complete just as you are, and the ripples, they take
a different perspective, they seem to be just little aspects,
movements on the surface of what you are. And from that place,
the seeking energy and the addictive cycle just releases itself
naturally from that.
So in a way I do think, although I wouldn't say presence heals for
example cancer, or anything, I think it goes a long way in healing
what most people are suffering from, which if you get to the root of
it is suffering from this sense of separation, this sense of I am an
embodied separate person that feels incomplete and that is
moving in a story of time, and that I need in future some other
thing, whether it be an object or at a later point in time to be
complete. And so that's the core affliction, and so the answer for
me was to recognize that when I look from awareness, present
awareness, when I rest and relax as that, and I see all of the
phenomena simply coming and going in what I am, then I start to
feel a sense of completeness that's always here, and then I don't
have to… and there's just a natural relaxation, I don't have to then
seek after this object and that object, and it just heals that,
whatever that was that was operating before that sense of lack,
that sense of separation just gets healed in that somehow.
WIZARD: Beautifully expressed, beautiful.
TRIP: He's unbelievably articulate.
WIZARD: Beautifully expressed, wow.
TRIP: I did not read all your stuff, I just read Living Realization.
So many of the questions I'll have for you today are coming from
that. But I'm going to read all your other books, because I was
really blown away by Living Realization. And some of our
listeners are pretty established, and others may not be, but I just
thought we might go through this really basic approach that you
have in Living Realization where you say there's really only three
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