Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Well joy is illegal, you're only allowed to
be so happy, and then they'll take you away because you'll scare
people. If you start dancing on the airplane, which I almost did
the other day because the music was so good in the headphones
there's this sense of we're going to come and take you away, and
we're going to lock you up. Even if they finally let you go, you still
have to go through this whole process where you have to apologize
for feeling ecstatic joy. However, if you're under the age of seven,
perhaps, it is okay, even 10, it is okay. There's an age at which we
say you're no longer allowed to be happy fully. You can be so
happy, and we hear this all the time. How many of you have been
really happy and you hear somebody goes, well, what did you take,
and what drugs are you on? Like what do you mean what drugs am
I on? I'm just alive. So it's just like it's a crazy thing. But what's
fun is… if we allow, the more people that allow other people to be
happy the more that just spreads, and seemingly that can also
disappear. But I tend not to have hope for anything because it's
painful.
TRIP: So you are very happy, now. Have you always been very
happy?
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, no. I'm not always happy, I'm a real
person, like sometimes I go through whole ranges of emotions; I
just don't take them personally.
TRIP: Was a greater sense of wellbeing and happiness
commensurate with some recognition of what's going on here?
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: I don't know. I try not to talk about this,
like those stories; because I think they can be something like
somebody thinks they need to have that experience in order to be
happy. Seemingly anyone listening right now can feel the place in
them that is playful, whether or not they want to express it, that's
okay, but you can feel the place, seemingly, I don't know about
anyone else. But I can feel the place in me that wants to play. And
we were at some friend's house yesterday, I was with Brian Adler
and there was this dog, this really big dog and this really little dog,
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