Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
RUPERT: The only thing it cannot stand is being clearly looked at.
What is the one thing the pink elephant sitting under your chair
cannot stand?
TRIP: Scrutiny? [laughter]
RUPERT: Looking. Scrutiny. It thrives on inadvertence. As long
as we don’t look, its imaginary existence can be perpetuated ad
infinitum. But if we looked it and that means if it is brought to the
light of awareness because awareness is the only one that sees or
looks. But when we look to find or see this separate entity, it’s not
there. It’s a phantom self. It thrives on inadvertence, or not being
clearly seen to be non-existent.
TRIP: I’m convinced you’re a realized human being. I know that
you are. And I also know that means that you’re a transparent
human being and I don’t think that there’s a question that you
mind answering as long as it doesn’t go and offend anyone or
compromise something that’s held in confidence but, I’m always
interested by sages who are in relationships and your companion’s
name is Ellen and a lovely woman, and I saw her at the conference
although I didn’t get to speak with her. I’m always interested if –
and either way you answer the question it can either give hope or
it can dash illusions. But, are you able to negotiate the conflicts
that inevitably arise in your relationship in a deeply respectful
loving way such that you two would characterize that your
relationship is sublime? Or are there problems in there just like
ordinary relationships where you go through periods where things
feel problematic and then you come back and things are good, I
mean, is it a cyclical thing or have you found a way to be in
sublime relationship?
RUPERT: The relationship is sublime. But that doesn’t mean that
issues don’t arise in the relationship. Of course they do. When
two body-minds from two different universes, because if we
imagine these two different sets of conditioning come together,
there is an inevitable meeting and the meeting is not always
harmonious. It takes some time to fit together, to melt together,
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