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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Right on. So Rupert, is there something to do?<br />

RUPERT: If we think and feel that we are a separate entity, doing<br />

something is not an option. It is inevitable. And the reason for<br />

this is the separate entity of the imaginary separate entity –<br />

because there is no real separate entity but the entity that we<br />

imagine ourselves to be is not in fact an entity, it is an activity<br />

already. In other words, if we think we could be our separate<br />

entity, we are already doing something. We are already seeking<br />

happiness, peace and love in the future. That’s what the separate<br />

entity is; it is the search for happiness. So there is no question, if<br />

we feel that we are a separate entity, there is no question of not<br />

doing something. In fact if we feel that we are a separate entity<br />

and we think at the same time that we’re not doing something,<br />

then we’re just fooling ourselves. It probably means we’ve been to<br />

too many Advaita meetings [laughter] and we’ve adopted the new<br />

Advaita mantra of there is nothing to do as a new belief and we<br />

have just added it to our repertoire of beliefs. So, I could imagine<br />

the entity, yes. We are already doing something and as this<br />

imaginary one, the very best thing we can do is to explore and<br />

investigate this entity that we imagine ourselves to be. And if we<br />

do that, we discover sooner or later that this entity is an imaginary<br />

entity. When we look for the “I”, the separate entity, we don’t find<br />

it. We find I, the true Self of awareness. And what is it that finds<br />

that? <strong>The</strong> only one that is present and aware, capable of finding or<br />

knowing anything. In other words, when we look for the separate<br />

I, we, I, awareness finds itself. And that is what Ramana Maharshi<br />

meant when he said, “When the I is divested of the I, only I<br />

remains.”<br />

TRIP: I feel like I put you on one of those exercise treadmills and<br />

I’ve cranked [laughter] cranked it up to 12 or 13. We’ve got three<br />

more minutes and we’ll say our goodbyes. Okay. So, what is the<br />

one thing the separate self cannot stand? You gave a talk on that.<br />

I’m very curious.<br />

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