Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
ever-present in our experience that the nature of the sacred work
of art is to give us a taste, to transmit the experience of that. Not
to give us the intellectual idea about it but to evoke actual
experience. And that is why very often if we’re faced with a true
work of art we weep, we laugh, we cry, it cuts through our normal
conceptual way of thinking and feeling, and takes us right to the
heart of the experience.
TRIP: All right. I got that. All right. What is you say the “real
blasphemy”?
RUPERT: The real blasphemy is to think and feel I am a person.
I’m a separate entity. We normally think that it is blasphemous to
say I am God. And because of our language it would be
inappropriate to use that phrase. But to say I am this unlimited
un-located presence of awareness is just the simple fact of our
experience. And to say I am a separate limited, located entity; that
denies the reality of our experience. That is the true blasphemy.
WIZARD: Right on.
TRIP: And so you also spent an hour discussing how does the
separate self get validated? How does that happen?
RUPERT: The sense of separation can appropriate almost
anything in order to validate itself, including spiritual teaching as
you quoted earlier with the shootings in Arizona. The term
blasphemy will take anything, even the highest formulation of
Truth and appropriate it in order to substantiate and validate
itself. But one of the main ways it does it is by imagining locations
in the body where it resides. So, for instance, it not just thinks but
feels that I am located in the head hearing these words. I am
located in the chest, feeling love or the lack of love. I am located in
these hands doing. I am located in these legs, moving. So, indeed
this is one of the main ways it validates itself is by appropriating
bodily sensations and imagining that it lives there, making its
home in the body.
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