Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
anything, but if I did it feels like charging somebody to give them
something they already have, it could be like me wanting to charge
you for what's in your pocket right now, or something. It doesn't
feel right to me.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Right.
WIZARD: If we pass a plate it's going to have some food on it.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes, the hard part. I think a meeting like
this is that the plate doesn't have anything on it, so it's hard to
charge for nothing. And that's why there's a service element, some
people put a price tag on it because they're doing a service, and for
me it doesn't resonate to put a price tag on nothing. Like you walk
into a restaurant and the plate is empty, you’re not going to pay
the $50 for it, even though sometimes that nothing is worth more
than anything I've ever purchased in some ways. And the
conversation like this is for those. But there isn't anything wrong
with people putting money on anything, because no one ever has a
gun to their head when they purchase something. The minute I
think you can and cannot do this, with regards to money, and then
I'm beginning to live in the world. I'm holding a position that
actually I don't want to see in the world, which is somebody in
charge of free enterprise.
ROBERT SALTZMAN: Beautiful, well said.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Well, we haven't even had capitalism yet,
like real free enterprise is actually real freedom, it's the real ability
to respect each other as autonomous units, and trade with each
other freely. We don't have that, we still have regulations, we still
have somebody telling us what is free to share and it's okay, it’s the
way it is right now, but we still haven't seen actual capitalism
amongst free beings.
TRIP: It's amazing. I mean, out on my property everything I'm
doing is illegal, and yet I'm doing really wholesome stuff [Laughs].
It's actually a lot less crazy and polluting.
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