Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
There are word documents, there are web pages and there are
images. We could say that these are three very different types of
document. And from the point of view of the documents, yes they
are three different types of document. However, from the point of
view of the screen there is always only one substance there. So,
the different documents are different documents from the point of
view of one of the documents. But from the point of view of the
screen there is no difference there. In other words there is no
diversity, there is no multiplicity there. Multiplicity and diversity
is for the mind, not for awareness.
TRIP: I have to say, I think your book is an extraordinary book and
there are so many little areas where you tuned up my
understanding. And I’ll give you another one, and it’s interesting
because it relates to something that’s in the news right Now, the
horrific killings in Arizona.
RUPERT: Yes.
TRIP: Apparently one of the rationales of the killer was that this is
all a dream. So, it really doesn’t matter that I blew all those people
away. And I look in your book and boom, of course there’s
synchronicity there because you say right there that reality is not
an illusion, it’s the perceived separation of objects from
consciousness, that is the illusion and so there is the potential as
this teaching reaches critical mass, people do misunderstand,
misinterpret, constantly misinterpret the teachings. Maybe that
would be one for you to elucidate some more because I think that
idea of the world as an illusion is one that many people that are on
the path still haven’t quite got it right. And I didn’t have it quite
right either.
RUPERT: Yes. The world as an object separate and distinct from
awareness, such a world is an illusion. In fact it is so illusionary
that nobody has ever found it. And just to make sure that we’re
not talking theory and philosophy here. Let’s just – everyone who
is listening try now and look around at the so-called world and ask
yourself; is what you see, independent of the seeing of it, and is the
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