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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

experience is intimately pervaded by it. But not pervaded by it like<br />

a sponge is pervaded <strong>with</strong> water. Because there are not two things<br />

at the, there is not experience and the awareness that pervades it.<br />

<strong>The</strong>re is just awareness. As it were and this is really just a matter<br />

of metaphor taking the shape of perceiving, fencing, cleaning,<br />

imagining, tasting, touching, and although that the forms, the<br />

names and the shapes of these appearances may seem to be<br />

changing all the time, their substance, this knowing presence is<br />

ever-present, it never changes.<br />

TRIP: And is present <strong>with</strong>out a human mind.<br />

RUPERT: Yes. It doesn’t require a human mind to know itself. It<br />

knows itself simply by itself. Its nature is awareness. It doesn’t<br />

need the help of the puny human mind in order to become aware<br />

of itself. It is the awareness of itself; in fact it cannot not be aware<br />

of itself. It can seem to forget itself and I emphasize seem. But by<br />

taking the shape of thinking it can seem to lose its own knowledge<br />

of itself and become something else, for instance, a body or a<br />

mind. In other words we can seem to forget our true nature and<br />

pretend to be something else, like a body mind. But even then,<br />

that is only an appearance in just the same way that the twodimensional<br />

screen can seem to be veiled by the image a threedimensional<br />

landscape. But the screen is never truly veiled. In<br />

just the same way awareness never loses or forgets its own<br />

knowing of itself that’s the knowing of its own being. It just seems<br />

to. And when it seems to, the peace and the love that is inherent<br />

in awareness or more than inherent but is awareness itself, are<br />

seemingly veiled. And for that reason this imaginary entity that<br />

we believe ourselves to be is always in search of peace and love.<br />

Because in order to imagine that what we are is a limited entity<br />

that the peace and love that is inherent in the knowing of our own<br />

being is similarly veiled.<br />

TRIP: <strong>The</strong>re are video web seminars at neti-netimedia.com, and<br />

also, you can go to www.rupertspira.com , where you can partake<br />

of a tremendous amount of free information and download books<br />

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