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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

this appearance of the body-mind-world? How are they related?<br />

Is it because we are still in a position of dualism here? I, the<br />

subject–awareness, and the body-mind-world, the object. So now<br />

what is the relationship between this subject and object? And if<br />

we make a very close and simple exploration of our experience we<br />

find that our only knowledge of the body, mind and world is in the<br />

form of sensing, thinking and perceiving. And when everything;<br />

sensing, thinking and perceiving are present they are utterly,<br />

intimately one <strong>with</strong> this presence of awareness that I am.<br />

In other words, there is no real relationship between awareness<br />

and its apparent objects. That it is too close to be a relationship.<br />

That all we know of the body-mind-world is, we could say it is<br />

knowing or experiencing. And that experiencing is utterly,<br />

intimately pervaded by awareness. We can explore this more in<br />

detail if you like later but here, the idea of a witness and a<br />

witnessing subject and a witnessed object has collapsed and there<br />

is just pure experiencing and this could be called a position of love.<br />

It’s a position in which I, this presence of awareness and<br />

understood and more importantly felt to pervade all experience<br />

that nothing is at a distance from this aware presence. So this is a<br />

position we’ve moved Now from the position of I am nothing, I am<br />

not a thing, to I am everything, I am the substance of all seeming<br />

things.”<br />

WIZARD: It’s due to the constancy of this state that renders it<br />

invisible, it doesn’t present itself or go away.<br />

RUPERT: Yes. It’s not constancy in time. It’s not something that<br />

lasts forever at a state in time it is rather this ever present<br />

awareness that we know ourselves to be. It doesn’t exist in time, it<br />

is just always Now.<br />

WIZARD: Yes.<br />

RUPERT: But even when I say always, that implies time, it is everpresent<br />

Now; just this ever-present reality of awareness, which is<br />

what we refer to when we say “I”. And it is ever-present and all<br />

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