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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

at a distance from me. And I haven’t really been able to take it in<br />

and make it my own and say, “Yes, this is my actual felt-lived<br />

experience.” It wasn’t until I met my teacher, Francis Lucille in<br />

my mid-thirties that all this preparation, this 25 years or so of<br />

preparation came to fruition during the time that I spent <strong>with</strong> him.<br />

TRIP: What was it about Francis do you think or was it just that<br />

you were ready?<br />

RUPERT: I think that I was ripe having spent the best part of two<br />

decades exploring and preparing myself as it were for this<br />

encounter. What was it about Francis? Simply, that he thought<br />

and felt and acted in an unrelated from the true Self. So,<br />

everything that’s proceeded from him and therefore the entire<br />

content of our friendship, not just the conversations, but<br />

everything about it was heard and nourished by nurturing in this<br />

love of Truth.<br />

TRIP: In describing that relationship you talked about being<br />

silent together, doing activities together, so did you go live <strong>with</strong> or<br />

near Francis?<br />

RUPERT: No. I was living and working in England when I met<br />

Francis and shortly afterwards started to raise a family. So, I had<br />

a very full life in England. But I spent every spare moment I could<br />

<strong>with</strong> him and that’s amounted to several weeks a year. But it<br />

wasn’t really the amount of time, although I did spend a lot of time<br />

it wasn’t the amount of time, physical time so to speak that I’d<br />

spent <strong>with</strong> him because my heart was always there. I never left. I<br />

never had the feeling that I was going on retreat and then I was<br />

leaving and that it would be another two months before I would go<br />

again. I was always there. My heart was always there. And to<br />

begin <strong>with</strong> it seemed as if this place, I was always there in a place<br />

<strong>with</strong> a person. But as time goes on this sense of the teacher being<br />

at a place or as a person begins to thin out as it were. And it<br />

wasn’t--I didn’t--I began to no longer feel that I had to travel to the<br />

other side of the world in order to be <strong>with</strong> a particular person, to<br />

be <strong>with</strong> my teacher. In other words, to be actually <strong>with</strong> the person<br />

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