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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

death, the original Greek manuscript is thought to have been<br />

compiled. So we have these 114 alleged sayings of Jesus.<br />

WIZARD: Could you share a few of those?<br />

TRIP: We have about three minutes, so go ahead.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Well, I don't happen to have the copy of the<br />

book handy, but if we only have three minutes, let me summarize<br />

pretty quickly. So I've looked at quite a number of books written<br />

by scholars who have tried to interpret the Gospel of Thomas in<br />

terms of these esoteric teachings, which aren't in the New<br />

Testament. And the scholars tend to be professors of religion at<br />

universities, so they come from generally a Christian background.<br />

So they're really looking at it through a Christian filter. I found no<br />

one who was looking at it from the standpoint of nonduality. So<br />

what I've done is gone through the Gospel of Thomas and the 114<br />

sayings, and looked at them from the standpoint of nonduality.<br />

So the title of the book is, <strong>The</strong> Gospel of Thomas - the<br />

Enlightenment Teachings of Jesus. So in my opinion what's found<br />

in the Gospel of Thomas is enlightenment teachings, the same<br />

thing that Buddha and others taught. You wanted a quote from it,<br />

someone put a copy of the book in my hand, and on the cover it<br />

says, "I shall give you", this is a quote from the Gospel of Thomas,<br />

"I shall give you what no eye has seen, and what no ear has heard,<br />

and what no hand has touched, and what has never occurred to a<br />

human mind". What do you think he's talking about there? Is be<br />

maybe talking about the absolute?<br />

TRIP: For sure.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: So that's what I've done there <strong>with</strong> the Gospel<br />

of Thomas, go ahead.<br />

TRIP: We're major fans of the janitor formerly known as Robert<br />

Wolfe. And you've got a website, www.livingnonduality.org , and<br />

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