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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

WIZARD: And there's a wisdom to that insecurity.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Yes, absolutely. In fact I think Alan Watts had<br />

a title of a book to that extent, <strong>The</strong> Wisdom of Insecurity.<br />

PAUL NAGY: In your more recent book you've devoted yourself<br />

to, was it retranslating the Gospel of Thomas. What is it that you<br />

did <strong>with</strong> that, because I haven't actually seen the book yet?<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Yes. I should clarify that. No, I did not<br />

retranslate the Gospel of Thomas, there's a very adequate<br />

translation which the scholars use, you can look it up on the<br />

website, Thomas O Lambdin, has done the translation which is<br />

most commonly used. Let me give a little background.<br />

I was raised as a Baptist and baptized when I was 13. I became an<br />

atheist by the time I was 20 seeing the hypocrisy in the church.<br />

[Laughter] But I've always wondered about how much of what the<br />

bible told us about Jesus and what he is purported to have said<br />

was true, and I'm not the only one who's wondered that because<br />

there are hundreds of scholars around the world who do nothing<br />

but try to determine who Jesus was, how he lived, and what he had<br />

to say. And so there are a lot of books, there's a whole library of<br />

books on what's called the historical Jesus. I've read quite a<br />

number of those books, and when in 1945 the Gospel of Thomas<br />

was discovered, for those who aren't familiar <strong>with</strong> it I should say a<br />

little bit about it.<br />

<strong>The</strong> Gospel of Thomas is a collection, scholars have broken it up<br />

into a 114 sayings purportedly of Jesus, and in fact virtually every<br />

one of them begins, Jesus said, and then has some quotation.<br />

Many of these appear in the New Testament, but many of them do<br />

not. And the ones that do not appear in the New Testament are<br />

quite different. And this document that was discovered in 1945 in<br />

an earthen jar in Egypt has been dated back to about 300 AD, but<br />

it was evidently translated into Coptic, which is an Egyptian<br />

language from Greek. And the Greek manuscript may go back to<br />

the time of Jesus, in other words <strong>with</strong>in say 50 years of Jesus'<br />

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