Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
WIZARD: Saniel Bonder edified the transmission discussion that
there was not anything moving from an apparent one to an
apparent other, but a sharing of the stillness. And he referred to it
as the white-hot transmission. But it was a really a sharing, a
coming to a sharing of mutuality.
TRIP: You've got a lot of little nuggets in there, jewels in here. But
one of the ones that I loved was you simply looked up or whatever,
but you shared the meaning of the word intelligence. Yes, and I
tell people intelligence is overrated, in fact it's an obstruction. But
I don't do a very good job of really explaining why that is, but in
the very meaning of the word intelligence, you say it means to
choose among things, to choose among, its discernment, to choose
among. And in that choosing among one is invalidating one's own
reality, right?
ROBERT WOLFE: Yes.
TRIP: So therefore the very act of being an intelligent person
means choosing from among things, and therefore when you're
engaged in so-called intelligent activity, you're creating a duality,
dual reality, that doesn't in fact exist. You're bifurcating reality.
PAUL NAGY: Well, there's a classic meaning of intelligence,
which means nous in the sense of Plotius. And in that particular
case you have to say that discrimination is not so much
bifurcating, which is the way we usually use it here, but in the
nondual sense of discrimination in which one allows the one to
come forward and re-vision what's seen. Since we're using our
senses we see things as many, because we see things in gradations.
In the sense of the one, we don't see the many as many; we just see
the many as a variance on this one, because our discrimination has
been changed. It’s like what I usually say, and I think you're
alluding to it, is jumping over the nondual awareness that we all
are. We jump over it into senses, into sensations, into thoughts,
into feelings, into acts, into discriminations. Yet, if we go back, we
calm down, become aware of what awareness is we learn to listen
to it, it heals those apparent separations without doing anything.
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