Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
then if I'm a scientist well I think they're all crazy. And so it's just
realizing like whatever position we hold, it's just like looking in
one of those mirrors. The wavy one makes us look skinny and
weird, and the fat one makes us look fat, and the clear one makes
us look clear, and no point, they're just reflection somehow true or
false, it's just a reflection.
So how do we exist without a narrative can be its own form of
mirror too, so there's really no way to make a mistake? That's what
I constantly come back to, like there's really no way to make a
mistake. But I do seem to start a war because my reflection
doesn't look like yours, it's ridiculous, it's really ridiculous, and all
over the world obviously we kill each other for our ideas because
the fat one's truer than the skinny one, or the tall one's truer than
the short one. And that's an unfortunate thing, but it's also in
innocence, people aren't intentionally trying to make the world a
miserable place, you can only know what you know. So it's really
in innocence, and that seemingly is the gift of sharing all of this
stuff, is just to invite the possibility that we are the same, and we
don't know. And when I can step into my own ignorance, then
seemingly there's a possibility to really see you without any idea
what I'm looking at, and to experience myself without any idea of
what that is, whatever that is.
ROBERT SALTZMAN: No, I get it. John and I were talking
earlier about the mysterious nature of all of this, and how the
actual awakening is not knowing anything, but knowing that you
don't know.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes, that paradox, the only certain thing I
am certain about is my uncertainty. And also this, but on the radio
it won't be hard, like this, whatever this is, just to be here, see each
other. This is it. And even for the listener, they can feel the
silence, and that's the invitation for silence, it's obviously not the
word.
ROBERT SALTZMAN: Well silence on the radio is called dead air.
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