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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Yes. So in other words, you go down the street<br />

and you see somebody beating a child, and you do this thing, or<br />

you do that thing. Who's the doer? Something's being done, the<br />

organism is doing something, there's something aware of what the<br />

organism is doing, there's something witnessing what's taking<br />

place. Do you need to go any further than that? Do you need to<br />

have some idea of why this is being done, or can you be content as<br />

it were to notice what's being done <strong>with</strong>out the idea that<br />

something other than what's being done should be done. Do you<br />

follow what I'm saying?<br />

PAUL NAGY: But in that, that seems to be… then you lack any<br />

moral compunction.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Well yes, morals are an idea.<br />

WIZARD: I agree <strong>with</strong> that.<br />

TRIP: Speaking of the suchness of things. One of the things that<br />

is true of our show is we affirm people, and I want to say that as<br />

far as I'm concerned, you're a realized human being, and by the<br />

way, you're an amazingly good writer.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Thank you.<br />

TRIP: I think I'm a good writer, but I read your writing and it's<br />

just way beyond what I can do.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Thank you.<br />

TRIP: I'm really enjoying it. I didn't realize your book was 440<br />

pages, I left in enough time to reach 250 okay, and I’ll get to the<br />

other 200 tonight. But I want to say that I think…<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: I want to say that as an interviewer, you've<br />

done your homework.<br />

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