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WIZARD: Yes. Conversations with Avant-garde Sages TRIP: Yes. And in this time of chaos in the world, and there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on, you talk about how when you were sitting in that redwood forest back there, when you were getting clear, there was world peace in that chair that you were sitting in, that redwood forest, because there was no one there to change, influence, or control anything, you were simply part of the landscape. So what does that say about so many people out there agitating for world peace, then they're out there and they're rattling the bars and all that. I think you might suggest there's another way to get to world peace, right? ROBERT WOLFE: Well it's a very difficult thing for people to deal with, but basically what these teachings are telling us is that there is at this present moment a particular reality, we may not like what that reality is, but it's present, it's a present reality. We can hope that it was otherwise, or wish that it was otherwise, but that doesn't change the fact it's still the present reality, regardless of what we feel about it, or think about it, or wish about it, or hope about it. So these teachings are telling us to come to terms with what's present, be present with what is. And it doesn't say that we have to like what is, but we're talking about being present with what is, as opposed to continually seeking things to be other than they are, wishing, hoping, things would be other than they are. And it's this sense of hoping and wishing that things were other than they are which causes what is called idealism, we have an idea that something should be this way, or should be that way, when it isn't that way. And these ideas translate into idealism, the world should be this way, people should be that way. And so our effort is to control and manipulate and so on to try to make our ideals reality. The point of these teachings is to be present with what's present, rather than seeking to have the world be the way you think it ought to be. 634
Conversations with Avant-garde Sages WIZARD: Ramana Maharshi said once that acceptance is the mightiest prayer. ROBERT WOLFE: Actually, for my own part, I don't think in terms of acceptance because if there's acceptance on the one hand, there's rejection on the other hand. And so this reality we're talking about isn't something that we can accept or reject, it is what it is, and like it or not it is what it is. So from my standpoint, I don't really even think in terms of accepting or rejecting. I just think in terms of being present with what's present. PAUL NAGY: We call that an equilibrium. ROBERT WOLFE: Yes, absolutely. PAUL NAGY: Okay. So, I'm walking along and suddenly I see something that's unjust, I see an adult beating a child. Okay, I can stay in the equilibrium, but to what degree in this accept things as you are, do you have a moral vision for what is right? I'm not saying what to do, what is right to do in that particular situation, but is there a moral vision? Is there a vision of the good that's relevant to your accepting things as things as it is? Or should we just allow dictators to be dictators, and sadists to be sadists, and the victims to be victims? ROBERT WOLFE: Well, some things are very difficult to get a handle on. But part of this matter of, we'll use the word accepting, part of this matter of accepting things as they are, really comes home to accepting what the organism is doing as it's doing it. In other words, we respond to things and we sometimes react to things, and we can critique that, analyze it, say I should have done this, I should have done that. Or we can observe what's taking place without making those kinds of judgments. In other words… you see what I'm saying? WIZARD: Yes, it is what it is. 635
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WIZARD: Be still. Conversations wit
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TRIP: Thank you. Conversations with
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WIZARD: Amen. Conversations with Av
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