Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
our situation, which we would like to be free of. So the freedom of
the conflicts that we experience in life has to do with this matter of
self-realization.
TRIP: Okay. We're all devotees of Ramana Maharshi, and this
program's for us, I mean, we don't have a huge listening audience,
so we like to talk about what we like to talk about. And I just
wanted to ask you…
WIZARD: I don't know. I wouldn't call myself a devotee.
TRIP: Not a devotee?
WIZARD: I would say that he affirms that in a very clear way for
me, but I don't feel that…
PAUL NAGY: No incense at his alter?
WIZARD: No, I don't…
TRIP: You've set up some pujas for him when we went to Tiru;
you have a picture, put flowers up on it, and everything.
WIZARD: I think veneration of those who are clear reflection is
veneration of our self. But deification, or idolatry, or just that to
worship an “other” is counterproductive, unless it leads into the
recognition that there is no other.
TRIP: Well I've got a question for both you guys, all right.
Because, Robert, I don't want to misquote you, but I think in your
book you would say that the term, Thy will, or let's just say, Thy
will be done, which is what Ramana apparently said when he hit
Tiruvannamalai. You and your book say this whole idea of thy will
doesn't really quite get it because there is no thy out there. And,
Wizard, I've heard you say, Thy will be done, as well as a biblical
reference. So I'm just wondering was Ramana having a moment of
forgetfulness around the absolute saturation that unconditioned
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