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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

about. Beyond that I wouldn't… to me there isn't any real purpose<br />

or meaning beyond that.<br />

WIZARD: I concur.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Good.<br />

TRIP: Now we've had a little, the <strong>Wizard</strong> calls it a bustle in our<br />

hedgerow here around deification and what not lately.<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Around what?<br />

TRIP: Deification. In your book you say, I've got a two-part<br />

question here, you say, "Godliness or holiness is not an acquired<br />

trait". So my question is, is anyone holier than anyone else? And<br />

before you answer that I want to say that my friend here, the<br />

<strong>Wizard</strong>, used to call his friend Ganesan, an Indian holy man,<br />

Ganesan, right?<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Sure, I know Ganesan.<br />

TRIP: Okay. Is that title BS to put holy man behind anybody's<br />

name? Is anybody holier than anybody else?<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: Well, you might say holy man in the terms of<br />

someone who is living a life which is, you might say, not worldly.<br />

But, no, the question is... is there anything that is sacred in terms<br />

of we'll go into this temple and we'll dip our fingers into this<br />

particular vat of water and so on and so forth. No, nothing is more<br />

sacred than anything else.<br />

WIZARD: So there's no mask any closer to the Truth than any<br />

other mask?<br />

ROBERT WOLFE: That's my opinion.<br />

TRIP: One of the points that you make, and this is a point made<br />

by others recently we've had on our show, and I think it's a really<br />

important point that eluded me I think for quite a while. I've only<br />

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