Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
PAUL NAGY: How did nonduality sneak up on you?
ROBERT WOLFE: [Laughs] Well, in the first chapter in the book I
describe that, but basically to answer the second question first. It
came a point in my life when I recognized that the most important
thing for me to be doing was to come to clarity, so that I was living
out of clarity rather than living out of confusion. So I at that time
was living in a camper van out in the redwood forest in Northern
California. Basically, I spent three years just living in the redwood
forest contemplating, reading, taking long walks, and at the end of
that amount of time things fell into place. That for me has been,
this is we're talking 20 years or so ago, that has been a matter of
living that awareness from that point on. There's never been a
time in that 20 years when that awareness hasn't been present.
And so it's a matter of living out of that awareness, and as you
said, Trip, that's where the rubber meets the road.
TRIP: We're going to skip around here and ask you one heavyduty
question.
ROBERT WOLFE: Sure.
TRIP: Okay. I don't know if you'll even remember your own
answers to some of these questions, 'cause they're pretty profound.
And I'll be amazed if you could just like snap them right off here.
So what is our purpose in life? Now I know what you said in your
book, do you remember what you said?
ROBERT WOLFE: What did I say?
TRIP: You said it's to do exactly as we are doing.
ROBERT WOLFE: Well, I think it's pointless really to think in
terms of purpose or meaning to life. If there's any meaning at all
or any purpose at all it would seem to have to do with coming to
this Truth of what's here, in other words, who are we, and what
our reality is. If there's any purpose or meaning it seems to me to
have to do with recognizing the Truth of what our existence is all
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