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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Levels, yes. He says, "Be all that you can be", and he was<br />

chuckling it, he didn't mean to sound like a marine, but, "Be all<br />

that you can be, the point being that the more of your dimensions<br />

you engage in the quest to find the source of this crazy game of life,<br />

the more likely you are to discover the stunning fact that you are<br />

its one and only author, and that's not a theoretical proposition,<br />

it's the very best chance we have to get our ticket to Athens", and<br />

Athens is what… what do you call that magical… Babylon, what's<br />

the other? <strong>The</strong>re's Babylon and there's?<br />

WIZARD: Zion.<br />

TRIP: Zion, okay. So just in two minutes people are sometimes<br />

confused by the emptiness of God, and so they start to think well<br />

there's nothing be done, and there's no self improvement. But on<br />

the other hand, good things tend to happen to those that actually<br />

improve themselves, right?<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Yes.<br />

TRIP: So what's the deal there? <strong>The</strong>re's a dichotomy.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: This is the perennial question, especially<br />

among people in the nondual tradition, they face this a lot. If<br />

there's really nothing we can do, then why do we do anything?<br />

And my answer to that is simple, because we do. It's not a matter<br />

of setting out to design whether I'm going to pursue a spiritual<br />

path or not, it simply happens, it simply is something that<br />

expresses itself. And people think that if you really buy into the<br />

idea of the emptiness of God, or the emptiness of reality that<br />

you're going to sit around like a bump on the log, my experience is<br />

that people who realize that Truth are the busiest people on the<br />

planet. But here's something else I want to comment about the<br />

emptiness of God. That's a misnomer; nothing could be further<br />

from the Truth. God, reality, Truth, Oneness, whatever word<br />

you're comfortable <strong>with</strong>, is conceptually empty, in other words<br />

there's nothing there the mind can wrap itself around. So to the<br />

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