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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

resides solely in the human heart, and it is there that we should<br />

look for our courage, direction, and nourishment. <strong>The</strong>re is no God<br />

but the one God and we are that. I think you were talking about,<br />

well there is I think an important distinction to be made that we<br />

human beings move <strong>with</strong>in this divinity, we move through this<br />

divinity, even our hearts move through this divinity. It's not<br />

actually a locus there in the human heart to which we look, right?<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: That's right.<br />

TRIP: Right, okay.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: We are that, that's that final statement. We<br />

are that, so there's no movement, there's no moving through, or<br />

around, or in, or anything else.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> white board is not moving.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Exactly, it's unchanging, it's eternal, it's<br />

eternal in the sense of beyond time, and beyond everything. So<br />

there's no movement <strong>with</strong>in it, and yet all things move <strong>with</strong>in it.<br />

So in itself is just what it is, and that's what we are, that's who we<br />

are.<br />

WIZARD: So build your house on that.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: So build your house on the rock, that's right.<br />

We are the unborn, we are the undying, we are the unchanging.<br />

TRIP: Okay, one last question and we can end <strong>with</strong> this how to<br />

build your house. Your friend Ken Wilber and you had a chat, you<br />

rarely get an interview <strong>with</strong> him, he doesn't give very many of<br />

them, and you're very fond of him. And he said, when answering<br />

your question about his integral approach, which means an<br />

approach to being that takes place across psychological,<br />

emotional, all kinds of…<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Sociological, cultural.<br />

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