Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
And that understanding is not of the mind, it is a direct… in fact
it's beyond mind, it's beyond the ability that the mind
conceptualize. In fact it arises most naturally when the mind is
quiet, when the mind's not doing its thing, this awareness of our
wholeness and our connection to everything arises naturally. And
this is how it is; this is the Truth about us.
TRIP: Something I'm really curious about, because I have a
fantasy about some day having resolved my problems, or them
having come so dissolved that I'm able to sit in my cottage on the
edge of my lake, and provide counseling services on a pro-rated
basis.
RICHARD YOUNG: There you go.
TRIP: That’s my fantasy, but are you able to actually bring that to
your therapeutic practice. I mean, because I have this theory that
it's better for someone to dissolve their sense of their personal self
than to focus on their personal problems. Do you counsel that, or
do you have to work with people at the level of personal problems
first?
RICHARD YOUNG: You have to work with the level of personal
problems first, if you hit them with this higher understanding
right off the bat, two things are going to happen. First of all
they're not going to understand it, it won't do any good. And
second of all, you're going to appear to them as the most unempathetic
person on the planet. And in order to help someone
you have to create rapport, you have to have a relationship, you
have to sit in their presence and them in yours and create a joint
presence. That happens when they feel understood; when they
feel that you are walking with them in their shoes.
Well, while there's a certain amount of pointing ahead, you only
point about a half-mile down the road, you don't point 20 miles
down the road. So you start where they're at, and you start
pointing half a mile down the road. Now look at this, look at this,
this is a possibility. But you start by empathizing with where
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