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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

done <strong>with</strong> this?" Well, Stephen if you're ever going to listen to this<br />

I'm done <strong>with</strong> it and you were part of that, thank you.<br />

TRIP: You have beautiful ways of saying things, and I want to<br />

share some of them, and also I might ask you also if you want to<br />

do one of your guided meditations, for example, you did flowing<br />

<strong>with</strong> the Tao, or the walk on the beach. It might be fun for you to<br />

do one of those, but I just thought I'd read something you wrote.<br />

You said, "Healing presence", and this was advice for therapists,<br />

you say, "Healing presence is the key to everything in the<br />

therapeutic encounter; it is the key to everything in any encounter<br />

for that matter. Pay attention to every word as a thirsty man pays<br />

attention to water. Keep your mind silent and don't think of what<br />

you want to say next. Forget your treatment plan; allow your<br />

words and interventions to arise naturally in the moment of the<br />

encounter <strong>with</strong> the other. Listen intensely and your therapy will<br />

become a healing meditation for your client and for you". That's<br />

beautiful. You write beautifully, and you've written many<br />

beautiful things like that.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Thank you.<br />

TRIP: Do you want to comment a little bit more about the therapy<br />

of intense listening?<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Yes, I would. I've been doing therapy now for<br />

32 years or something like that. I can remember as a young<br />

therapist in the first five years I would spend inordinate amounts<br />

of time getting ready for sessions, reading the case notes, and<br />

planning in my mind what techniques I was going to use next, and<br />

trying to fathom what it was this person would need from me.<br />

And more times than not I would get into as session <strong>with</strong> this<br />

treatment plan in my head and ready to go, and ready to change<br />

the world, and change this person, and it would just flop, it would<br />

just fall flat. <strong>The</strong>y would come in <strong>with</strong> some entirely different<br />

thing they wanted to talk about, and would totally screw up my<br />

treatment plan [Laughs]. , I thought that was pretty rude of them<br />

quite frankly.<br />

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