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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

journey was the only journey worth taking. And that the esoteric,<br />

or outside, or external trappings of religion were simply there to<br />

serve the purpose of supporting that journey, but because of<br />

human nature, or the way things tend to develop over the years,<br />

those external trappings became the point themselves, they<br />

became the end themselves, and the inner search and the inner<br />

journey got lost. And I think that's still true of Christianity today<br />

in most circles, is that that inward journey is not supported, it's<br />

not even pointed to, and I think that's what the external structures<br />

of venture or initially did quite well was to support that inward<br />

journey. I don't think it happens that way now.<br />

WIZARD: I've described a lot of your postings on Facebook to<br />

Trip as profoundly affirmative. And my own journey; what I've<br />

been fascinated <strong>with</strong> is how in affirmation like for you in the form<br />

of Thomas Merton, in many different ways comes of its own<br />

volition when one is ready to hear it. It's just amazing.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: It is amazing. It is awe inspiring in fact, how<br />

the very book you need to read at a given moment comes into your<br />

hands, and the very person you need to speak to comes into your<br />

presence. It's quite amazing.<br />

TRIP: Well speaking of books, you admire the author Harrison<br />

who told you to make his book the last one you ever read about the<br />

spiritual journey.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Good old Stephen, yes, I did.<br />

TRIP: Did you take his advice?<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Eventually I did. His wasn't the last one I<br />

read, but it was probably one of the last generations of books I<br />

read, that's for sure. I had the privilege and honor of getting to<br />

know him personally, and interview him for a magazine we used to<br />

publish, and he used to chide me a little bit about that. "When are<br />

you going to be done <strong>with</strong> this, Richard, when are you going to get<br />

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