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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

RICHARD YOUNG: You probably should talk to the people who<br />

come to the classes and see how they balance all of that, because<br />

I'm always pointing inside of them to look for and find and<br />

discover the divinity which they are, trying to take what has always<br />

been external for them, and help them realize that it's truly<br />

internal. But it's a process and we all have to go through it in our<br />

own way and at our own speed. I've become pretty adept I think<br />

over the years in speaking in language that people can identify<br />

<strong>with</strong>, or understand, at whatever stage they're at. Being a<br />

psychotherapist I have to do that a lot in therapy, because it does<br />

no good to share a Truth <strong>with</strong> someone if they have no way of<br />

understanding what it is you're saying. So you try to start where<br />

they're at, and use language they're comfortable <strong>with</strong>, and then<br />

gently, sometimes gently and sometimes not so gently, you try to<br />

lead them forward to the next stage of understanding so that<br />

there's a growth process that you're helping to facilitate. So if<br />

you're standing at the end of the road looking back and saying,<br />

okay, watch out for this ditch over here, and this is smooth going<br />

here, so you can go a little quicker. What you're trying to do is<br />

help chart out for them the journey as you remember it, and as you<br />

walked it, and you do so in language that they understand and that<br />

you used and understood at those stages as well.<br />

TRIP: I get it. That's what I-thought you were about, because you<br />

tell your students, for example I listened to one of your talks <strong>with</strong><br />

your students.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: You really did your homework, didn't you,<br />

Trip?<br />

TRIP: Oh, yeah man, I spent days. You tell your students that<br />

their contemplative inquiry into their own minds will absolute<br />

transform them and that it transformed you. But then I've also<br />

seen you speak on your website where you let people know that<br />

there's really nothing they can do really to…<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Further more there's no such thing as<br />

transformation.<br />

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