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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

contemplative practices, which was truly a transformative moment<br />

for me in my life. And I've often thought the greatest gift I ever<br />

gave myself was the gift of meditation.<br />

That's when I stated going to meditation retreats, and learning<br />

from meditation teachers like Jack Kornfield, or Shinzen Young,<br />

Ruth Denison and others out here in the West Coast, and took up a<br />

serious meditation practice. <strong>The</strong>n over the years the authors are<br />

just I suppose too numerous to mention, but I eventually found<br />

my way into the writings of various Vedanta Advaita writers,<br />

Ramana Maharshi, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ramesh Balsekar, those<br />

guys. And I think that pretty much marks what I would call the<br />

end of my spiritual journey was when I discovered those writings<br />

and those teachings.<br />

WIZARD: Same for me, Ramana Maharshi's talks was the one<br />

that nailed the coffin shut.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: Yes, exactly. <strong>The</strong> book that nailed the coffin<br />

shut for me actually was one by John Wheeler, are you familiar<br />

<strong>with</strong> his writing?<br />

WIZARD: No, I'm not.<br />

RICHARD YOUNG: He's a modern day Advaita; I suppose he<br />

would resist that label, but nondualist. And I went through about<br />

a year, this was three or four years ago anyway, about a year of<br />

very, very intense introspection and self-examination, and spent a<br />

lot of time in journaling and thinking and so on. And really felt<br />

like by the end of that year that I was spinning my wheels, I was<br />

exhausted, I was tired of the search, and I was just at a place where<br />

I said where do I go from here? Where is there to go from here?<br />

Because there was still some longing left in my heart, and I<br />

happened to pick up a book by John Wheeler called You Were<br />

Never Born, and that was the final nail in the coffin. As I was<br />

reading through that book, I didn't even get all the way through it<br />

before just this intense sense of seeking that I had always had from<br />

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