Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
WIZARD: And fun is fun.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Yes. Well we're amazing, we're all so
amazing in our own perfect way whether there's a self or not a self,
like it's still perfect, and it's just so fun to have fun. Because this
can feel so serious, the search, the spiritual thing, like oh, I've got
to find it out, got to figure out the answer. Well, it's not serious in
some ways, in some ways it really is, it feels that way, but it's not,
not to me.
WIZARD: I hear you.
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: But then when I meet someone who's
taking it very seriously, I take it very seriously with them, I don't
have to pretend. It's okay to meet everybody where they are, in my
experience it is, and I enjoy it.
TRIP: So you're just having fun, Benjamin, there's no mission
here, there's no economic component, there's no ambition to
become like ever more widely known, or to develop anything?
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, in fact sometimes I think like I can't
wait 'til it's over, then I can just go and get a job, and go
skateboard at the skate park. I mean I have that feeling often.
TRIP: So there's a compulsion, there's a need to share right now?
BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, no. There's just like… it's hard to talk
about, but it's like there's an instruction to share. It's like, okay,
now go share. Really? Ah, come on, no, I don’t want to. No, go
share. Okay. That's the feeling. Before I went to Europe I was like
crying, like I don't want to go and it’s like just get on the damn
plane and go, like just go. And then something happens like it
opens out, and so whether we can call that like the personality
doesn't want to accept its role, I don't know how to talk about it.
But I like being very honest about it. There are times when I can't
stand my job, I don't want to be out on the street with the sign,
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