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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

would you say that it's going to bring the emotional states to some<br />

kind of less prevalent state, less demonstrative?<br />

REGINA AKERS: I can only honestly and authentically speak<br />

from my own experience. Of course I've read stuff that would give<br />

me an idea of how to answer that question, but I never feel right in<br />

doing that, so I won't. What I will tell you is my own experience is<br />

that there is almost what I would describe as a stepping back that<br />

occurs, and one of those phases of the stepping back was both still<br />

experiencing the emotion and seeing it. But as the stepping back<br />

has continued to occur, the constancy is taking more of the<br />

foreground, which means that the emotion really is fading out. So<br />

it's almost like there was a foreground and a background, and<br />

before the human was in the foreground, and the constancy in the<br />

beginning was so far in the background, it wasn't even noticed.<br />

But eventually it came in, so that even while the human was still<br />

really running in the foreground, the constancy was there. But<br />

then it seems like there's a shifting of place where the constancy<br />

moves more into the foreground. And then what happens is things<br />

that obviously would have been upsetting before, the upset really<br />

is just not arising. Or if it does arise it's very small, and very short<br />

lived. So that's the way I experience it.<br />

WIZARD: That's like Ramana Maharshi would use an example of<br />

the movie and the movie screen, that the movie's always moving<br />

on the movie screen, but the movie screen is constant. And the<br />

constancy is our seamless sentience, and the movie is insentient in<br />

and of itself <strong>with</strong>out the screen. And so there's still a oneness <strong>with</strong><br />

the movie and the screen, but the primacy of being into the<br />

forefront rather than a character in the movie, frees us from that<br />

seduction, and inherent pains, and suffering that go along <strong>with</strong><br />

being a character in the movie.<br />

TRIP: All right, Regina, we're at the end of a love fest, now we<br />

have to get to the challenging questions here, okay.<br />

REGINA AKERS: Wait, before you end the love fest, I want to tell<br />

you that I do love chatting <strong>with</strong> you two, and I think you know<br />

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