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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

be yourself, unadorned, what comes naturally, <strong>with</strong>out regret, and<br />

<strong>with</strong>out trying to change yourself unless that comes naturally too.<br />

So would you agree that being yourself is a good thing to be?<br />

REGINA AKERS: Yes, there's another Seven Steps writing that's<br />

later in the journal, that continues that insight about not<br />

identifying <strong>with</strong> being anything, but it also gives the symbol of a<br />

puppet in that when the puppet strings are pulled, the puppet<br />

body moves. And so it's this understanding that I may teach, and I<br />

may parent, and I may hike, and I may whatever. But that's<br />

different from saying, I am a teacher, or really identifying <strong>with</strong> I<br />

am a teacher, or I am a parent, or I am a hiker.<br />

So it's the ability to allow the movement to happen in the way it<br />

happens, allow the moment to be what the moment is, <strong>with</strong>out<br />

identifying <strong>with</strong> it. And if you're not identifying <strong>with</strong> it, then<br />

you're not identifying <strong>with</strong> it in a prideful way, nor are you<br />

identifying <strong>with</strong> it in a guilty or a regretful way. Those are just two<br />

different sides of the identification coin. You're just, again,<br />

allowing all things to be as they are, and allowing the movement to<br />

happen, <strong>with</strong>out identifying <strong>with</strong> it.<br />

WIZARD: Trust the Mystery.<br />

TRIP: You told a story that gave a sense to the nature of<br />

enlightenment that was very down to earth, and we interview a lot<br />

of avant-<strong>garde</strong> sages here that are in the woodwork, nobody knows<br />

who they are; they're working in warehouses, and they've been<br />

released from prisons, they're very ordinary. And they're willing<br />

to share the ordinary parts of their lives, and they have their<br />

relationship things that go on, and what have you. And they uplift<br />

me because throughout all of it, they have equipoise. And you told<br />

a beautiful story about this monk in the village, which I know is<br />

maybe other people have heard it, because it's an Eckhart Tolle<br />

story or something?<br />

REGINA AKERS: Yes, I think it comes from his book, A New<br />

Earth. I think that's where I saw it.<br />

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