Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
interviewed on this program, and others, have had powerful
awakening experiences, often the first one coming through an
exposure to Ramana, his book, or whatever. But the Wizard has
helped me to remain very clear that there was no transmission
going on there; there was no deity there in Ramana Maharshi, and
I think it's really important when you've had that kind of a
powerful insight that comes on the heel of exposure to someone
like Ramana that you're really clear when you share that with
other people. And I'm not saying you're not being, but I hope
everyone is that it's not about Ramana, you know.
REGINA AKERS: Yeah, well in fact the funny thing is if you pay
attention to these messages that came to me from Ramana, or
seem to come to me from Ramana [Laughs], the very last message
was a message about three states of mind. The first state of mind
was called resister, the second state of mind was called doubter,
and the third state of mind was called abiding. And the way it was
described to me is that the resister is more like the average person
in the world today, who thinks they know who they are, they
perceive themselves as the person, they know what their likes and
dislikes are, and their fears, and they're fully identified. And that's
called the resister because it's fully resisting the Truth.
The doubter is the stage that most people seem to be at when
they're on what is perceived to be the spiritual path. It's where
you're beginning to both doubt that you are that person that you
thought you were, you're beginning to question that, and you may
be receiving teaching. It could seem to come through a guru,
through a book, like A Course in Miracles, or through an inner
source like I experienced. But you also do not see that as you, that
teaching. You perceive that to be an other, so you're doubting
yourself in both directions. You're doubting that you're the person
but you're also not feeling that you are the true Self, or the
wisdom. So that's the doubter.
Abiding is being that which you are in Truth. And in the very last
message this seeming Ramana told me that I had had a very strong
doubter phase [Laughs], but it was time to move from the doubter
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