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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: Have you read the works or spent time <strong>with</strong> a teacher or<br />

anything like that?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, not one-on-one, I've definitely read a<br />

ton in my life. Now I can't read which is… [Laughs]<br />

TRIP: Okay. You can't read?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, I pick up a book and it's like it doesn't<br />

last, like something just starts to laugh and it won't really follow a<br />

page, it's really wild. I actually like reading so I'm like, hey, I hope<br />

this goes away [Laughs], but it won't really last.<br />

TRIP: We interview as lot of sages here and we call them avant<strong>garde</strong><br />

sages, and each one has pretty much got it, what this<br />

underlying reality is all about, but each one brings a fresh and<br />

unique perspective that’s the marriage of their incarnation and<br />

their life experience <strong>with</strong> this ultimate reality. <strong>The</strong>y have a way of<br />

talking about it, so we had a guest on last week, Jeff Foster, and he<br />

speaks to an intimacy, and right now he's on radical acceptance.<br />

Everything is already accepted, so you don't have to proactively<br />

accept anything, it's already accepted. So that’s a fresh insight that<br />

he brings. Is there something that you feel is really… you're<br />

passionate about that's an aspect of this Truth that you want to<br />

share right now?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Well I don't know anything for anyone<br />

else. I notice that there's a lot of ways to come up <strong>with</strong> different<br />

narratives, and like positions from which to view everything from,<br />

but I don't have something specific. Because I notice in my own<br />

experience like there's so much playing that goes on, that it's like<br />

one thing doesn't really ever stick. And that being said, there<br />

might be an answer, I don't necessarily have one right now.<br />

Whatever is happening now is whatever is listening, is listening in<br />

all of these bodies, not only in this room, but wherever the speaker<br />

is, if it's in the car right now, or it's in the house, whatever is<br />

hearing this sound is exactly the same thing, but that's just a<br />

poetic way to try to talk about a unity that is also another poetic<br />

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