Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
an example, tranquility is an experience, whereas resting in
awareness is not.
WIZARD: Beautiful.
PETER FENNER: So we can lose the experience of tranquility if
something can change, again that's a checking question, and can
this change? We say, yes, this can change, it means we're
identifying with a conditioned aspect of this. So, yes, if we're
tranquil for sure at some time it will change, we'll feel agitated,
and then it's easy for people to think, ah, I've lost it, yet they
haven't lost nondual awareness, they've lost something beautiful
that was accompanying it.
WIZARD: The side effects.
TRIP: You're an amazing teacher, and I think you have a stable of
teachers perhaps that are involved in the training of the trainers,
but it appears that people can actually engage you if they want to,
is that correct?
PETER FENNER: To some extent, yes. A lot of my time is now
involved in teaching teachers and therapists here in the US and in
Europe, and running the Radiant Mind program, but I have some
time for working with people individually, yes.
TRIP: Well I think that's amazing, that you create that time, and
the Radiant Mind program sounds fantastic. Did you want to talk
about it at all so that folks who are listening who haven't heard of
it might find it something they want to do? Or is there anything
you'd like to say?
PETER FENNER: No, just a little how it came into existence. I
taught workshops around the world and people would say, wow,
this is so great, but how can we continue this over a longer period
of time, so that's why I came up with a nine-month Radiant Mind
course. One of the great things about it is that over a nine-month
period of time real things happen in people's life, like losing their
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