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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No. [Laughs] I've tried to avoid that, I'm<br />

successfully able to do so. But I work, I mean seemingly I work a<br />

lot, I'm constantly talking <strong>with</strong> people and emailing <strong>with</strong> people,<br />

and out and about, and I try to make myself very available to<br />

people who just want to talk about whatever, whatever they want<br />

to talk about. I mean, I'm not a therapist so definitely I<br />

recommend people who have real big issues to go see therapists,<br />

I'm not trained in mental health issues, I don't try to pretend I'm<br />

something I'm not. But for the most part I must meet <strong>with</strong> people<br />

like this, and we play, like that.<br />

TRIP: So tell us about being perfect, why are you so convinced?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: Well it's not something that has to be<br />

convinced, it's obvious. This is it; this is the way it is. So<br />

perfection's a really loaded word, we can hear perfect and think,<br />

oh well that means I get what I want all the time, but that's not<br />

what I mean.<br />

TRIP: So, for the person out there that doesn't feel perfect and has<br />

issues and problems, and life is a struggle, what would you like<br />

them to know? What would you like to tell the person that doesn't<br />

feel perfect?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: That it's perfect, it's okay not to feel<br />

perfect. I think in some ways it's just the total allowance to be who<br />

we are, wherever we are, as we are, is its own freedom, but even<br />

not feeling free is perfect, is part of the… I don't really have an<br />

agenda for other people because it doesn't feel good for me to have<br />

something I want you to be, you're already whatever you are. So I<br />

just hang out <strong>with</strong> that. You'll do what you do; I'm not in charge of<br />

anything.<br />

TRIP: When you're meeting <strong>with</strong> folks, you're not really taking on<br />

the responsibility of hoping that they'll feel better or something?<br />

BENJAMIN SMYTHE: No, no. Because they don't have to feel<br />

better, who do I think I am? I mean, I'm okay if you suffer, I'll sit<br />

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