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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

<strong>with</strong> almost every experience that they undertaken. Now the sage<br />

walks down the path, and there's the perception of a shiny object,<br />

now what?<br />

PETER FENNER: Wow. Well it's like you could walk closer to<br />

that, that's a possibility, but equally that shiny object could recede<br />

from our field of awareness, right, because we're not being driven<br />

or captivated by what looks good or what looks interesting or<br />

uninteresting. So for me it's this idea of not knowing what is going<br />

to be happening next. So for the sage, the sage does not know,<br />

does not need to know what will be happening moment by<br />

moment. It's this notion of the ever-fresh presence of awareness.<br />

TRIP: Exactly.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong> Mystery.<br />

TRIP: Exactly. <strong>The</strong> sage doesn't do anything [Laughs]. Just shiny<br />

object and that's it, no let me go over there and pick that thing up<br />

and see if it's a piece of gold, and then I'm going to have some<br />

more money, none of that.<br />

PETER FENNER: Lovely.<br />

TRIP: It was lovely, that was my first taste. I love that. One of the<br />

things that you mention several times in your book is this concept<br />

of broadening the river of life.<br />

PETER FENNER: Yes. Well I think that naturally happens when<br />

we rest more in awareness and that we become less involved <strong>with</strong><br />

the particular events of our life that there's a broadening. So<br />

there's an enhanced capacity to receive whatever is arising,<br />

particularly in terms of pleasure and pain, it's possible to<br />

experience pain or more intense pain <strong>with</strong>out freaking out,<br />

<strong>with</strong>out thinking that it shouldn't be happening, hey what have I<br />

got to do, what's wrong, what do I do to alleviate this? So we have<br />

an increased capacity to just receive the sensations that can be<br />

produced by our mind and nervous system <strong>with</strong>out needing to<br />

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