Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
to love unconditionally spoke to the state that one had arrived in,
and if one could love unconditionally then one was an amazing
human being. But you speak about the intimacy of embracing
everything versus unconditional love. I think that's a very
important distinction.
WIZARD: Is unconditional love something we "do", or is it…
TRIP: It's something that we do, yes. I mean, that's what Ithought.
WIZARD: We think we do.
TRIP: Yes, we think we do it. Yes [Laughs].
PETER FENNER: I feel that unconditional love is the space that
we're in when we're resting as or resting in pure awareness,
because here there's no manipulation. In this space I, we, don't
need anything, there's nothing that we need because we're fulfilled
in the moment, and nothing needs to be different. So therefore we
don't need people to be different, we're not asking or demanding
anything from anyone else, we're not trying to keep people within
our sphere of influence thinking that they are a source for our
happiness and enjoyment. Nor are we trying to push people out of
our sphere of experience, so it completely allows people to be
where they are, brings forth the beauty of people's existence,
because we know that everyone has access to this state of effortless
being, resting as awareness.
WIZARD: Acceptance.
TRIP: Another way that you say that in your book is you say, "If I
hold to your suffering as unreal, it negates the compassion, if I
hold to it as real, it negates the wisdom. In order to really
experience this union of love and wisdom I have to let go of the
struggle to understand".
PETER FENNER: Yes.
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