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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

Positive listening is just when we listen to whatever we're hearing,<br />

and we're listening to it positively, it's like we're giving energy to it,<br />

we're positively assessing it, we think it's interesting, we're<br />

thinking it's great, and we're like overtly or in some way<br />

encouraging the person that we're listening to in their<br />

construction, in their story, in a description of what's happening<br />

for them. And then negative listening happens, the opposite,<br />

when we get bored, we wish that we weren't where we were, we're<br />

looking for an escape route, how to bring a particular conversation<br />

to a quick closure so that we can be on something more<br />

interesting, or in fact be out of the conversation totally. <strong>The</strong> pure<br />

listening is just listening from pure awareness, listening from no<br />

mind. One thing <strong>with</strong> pure awareness is that it can look like<br />

there's a close attention, but it's effortless, there's no concentration<br />

or attention involved, it's listening <strong>with</strong>out judgment, beyond<br />

judgment, it is pure hearing. We're just listening to whatever is<br />

being said and it just dissolves in our awareness through our way<br />

of listening, and that transforms what other people are thinking<br />

and what they're saying, and it's an invitation for people to move<br />

beyond the creation of meaning. So we just listen <strong>with</strong>out<br />

validation or invalidation.<br />

An easy way to think about it is we listen in a way that we go<br />

beyond agreement and disagreement; we're not adding mental<br />

commentary from our own side.<br />

TRIP: One aspect of that… I'm sorry to interrupt you.<br />

PETER FENNER: We hear everything that someone is saying, we<br />

can feed back to it, we can relate to them, but at the same time<br />

we're connected <strong>with</strong> the nothing, the pure awareness that's<br />

always present in the midst of everything.<br />

TRIP: One thing that I watched, and I watched you listening, and<br />

I've listened to your interviews and watched your interviews, this<br />

little piece about the not validating is huge, because we have been<br />

trained that it is our responsibility when we listen to someone to<br />

nod our head and go, yes, got you, got you, yes, uh huh, constantly<br />

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