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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

materiality, or even mentality to have formed, or accumulated.<br />

Now how soft is this?<br />

WIZARD: Sentience. Sentience returns home from form in the<br />

idea that sentience has evolved is all illusion.<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Yes.<br />

WIZARD: Does that makes us creationist?<br />

TRIP: Francis, Francis?<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Lucille?<br />

TRIP: Lucille. He uses the word perfume.<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Oh, yeah. Yes, that's a great way to put it.<br />

Yes. In the same way as softness, in very similar territory is the<br />

word lightness, as in meaning in the absence of weight.<br />

WIZARD: This has been great.<br />

TRIP: [Laughs]<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong>re's been no time.<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Oh, yes. I would just like to say thank you to<br />

the both of you, it's just an honor and a pleasure to be on your<br />

program and to "share this <strong>with</strong> you". I do have one request, or<br />

suggestion. Would you consider make your program maybe four<br />

hours long? [Laughing] We could do this…<br />

TRIP: I've been transported. In the beginning of your book, you<br />

made a couple of claims where you said something like, you will<br />

never read another book like this, or something like that. I was<br />

like, yeah, yeah, Peter, right, okay. I've read some pretty good<br />

ones too I've read Francis Lucille, and I've read Rupert Spira, I<br />

consider his examination of the present moment of Now on some<br />

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