Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
falling or losing hold, or, of crashing, or any of those, those are all
just concepts.
WIZARD: Standing in infinity.
TRIP: Yes, it would be like if somebody pushed you out of an
airplane, and they jumped out behind you and for the first 10
seconds you were freaked, you didn't know you had a parachute on
your back. And then they tap you on the shoulder, and they're
like, dude, you can't die. It turns from a nightmare into an
absolute ecstatic experience.
PETER DZIUBAN: Yes, and it's always, always absolutely brand
new in the sense of it has no background. In this present-ness
that's present right Now, it itself is not saying it has any history;
Now is mentally unwritten upon--completely. It would only be
thought that would try to say present-ness was present five
minutes ago, that's just a thought. And as nothing exists outside
of or separate from this brand new, talk about pure, and
indescribable, present-ness…it's just… the words are so
inadequate. But this “new-ness” really truly is all that exists, it's
not like there is an existence that this fills, because there's no
history of even any prior existence, just the whole of what is... is
just absolutely brand new every so-called moment.
TRIP: I love how you said imagine how soft.
PETER DZIUBAN: Oh, yeah.
TRIP: Talk about that.
PETER DZIUBAN: Yes. It gets to like it is right Now where words
and thoughts about presence, no matter how magnificent they
might be, they start to get in the way. It's like, okay, got it, I don't
want any more of that. But then you feel like somehow there's still
this endlessness and so it becomes a thing of like tasting one’s own
presence. I don't know how else to say it. But the fact that it's
brand new, there hasn't been any time for any matter, or
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