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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

Somewhere in the book it says, I think this is Chapter 12, and it's<br />

also on the website by the way, but it says, "Did you ever stop to<br />

ask yourself what makes Now be Now? Where does it come from?<br />

What is that?" Do you know what I mean? It’s strange when you<br />

say, well why should there be this thing called Now that we have?<br />

Who decided that? Or where does that come from? And what it<br />

is... is that it's the presence or the present-ness of what we call<br />

awareness, or consciousness., And a little investigation or inquiry<br />

shows that what we call awareness isn’t something that, or rather<br />

Now, Now-ness or present-ness, isn't something that awareness is<br />

aware of, but awareness and present-ness is the same one being,<br />

they're the same, because one could not say there was a presence<br />

<strong>with</strong>out being aware, and one could not be aware <strong>with</strong>out being<br />

present.<br />

WIZARD: Being absolutely still, it never began.<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Yes, yes. And right here, I'd like to continue a<br />

little bit further <strong>with</strong> a point that a lot of times also doesn't come<br />

up that much or maybe is overlooked, I don't know, but I think it's<br />

very much worth emphasizing. To go back to what we were saying<br />

<strong>with</strong> the apple there, and that the point of that whole example, and<br />

by the way in Chapter 14, in the same way that an apple is<br />

deconstructed, it does the same thing <strong>with</strong> the body in Chapter 14,<br />

and shows that “body” too, really is just made out of so many<br />

sensations. And Chapter 16 does it <strong>with</strong> what we call the world, a<br />

material world. It is so easy to assume that there is a physical<br />

body on a physical planet right Now, and what's called a planet is<br />

just a bunch of sensations too. And there's nothing behind those<br />

sensations called an object that's backing them up, they're just<br />

those free-floating sensations. Everything really from the<br />

standpoint of consciousness is just this non-material floatingness,<br />

but it's not floating on anything, it's just its own<br />

boundlessness.<br />

WIZARD: That includes the universe.<br />

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