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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

looking in on it telling it what it's going to do, or how this or that is<br />

going to be, because there's nothing that is going to be. But in that<br />

assumption, which is a mental thing, it's as if there's an energetic<br />

tension, and you notice a similarity between tense, as in past<br />

tense, future tense, and being tense. Yet, in the clarity that this<br />

presence that's here has nothing ever being ahead of it, there’s<br />

freedom from that tension. But that doesn't mean it is dead, and it<br />

doesn't mean that one is going to not continue to do things. <strong>The</strong><br />

body will appear to do things in what appears to be time, but you<br />

as this present-ness are just an indescribable ease of unobligated<br />

being. You have zero obligations.<br />

WIZARD: Because if it moves, its imagination.<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Exactly.<br />

TRIP: And, Peter, here's another one, okay, so hopefully [Laughs]<br />

the listeners really got there is no future there.<br />

WIZARD: Oh, no. [Laughs]<br />

TRIP: Here's another one though that blew me away that you do,<br />

right. Here's another one. If someone is not fully established in<br />

nondual wisdom, most of the time they have a feeling there is an<br />

external god, or there's some god somewhere, they may not put<br />

their… there's a god, they haven't figured it all out, but they leave it<br />

hazy and they're pretty sure there's a god. And they look around,<br />

they can see that there's so much miraculous stuff going on that<br />

clearly there's an all powerful thing called god, okay. And that's<br />

where they walk around <strong>with</strong> that god. Now you say though god is<br />

trumped, god isn't as powerful as consciousness because if you<br />

were to actually meet god, like if god parted the skies, go ahead<br />

and tell that, because I mean [Laughs]…<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Well you were doing a pretty good job.<br />

TRIP: No, go ahead.<br />

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