Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
watch then the thoughts that seemingly what are called Peter
thoughts arise and how… I can't think of the word at the moment,
but how they're just so not going to do anything to alter this Now
one way or the other. They're not going to make Now more
present; they're not going to make it go away. And so they’re seen
in their utter ineffectiveness, when it comes to reality.
During the day and when we have to be out with the body and do
things, thoughts seem to be useful, but when it's turned around,
thought comes from a very different place as well. So with all that
we're going to say in our discussion time here today, it's not
anything "difficult", always come back if there's a temptation to
think, God, this is getting deep, or this is so esoteric, blah, blah,
blah. Just come back to this-- try to get rid of Now.
WIZARD: Try to divide Now.
TRIP: All right, that was juicy, do not forget any of these juicy
things you have but here's another one that you do so well, he is so
good. He's really good.
PETER DZIUBAN: It's not Peter, it's the other One. It's this
presence here. Go ahead.
TRIP: Because you've disabused, that's a word, I don't know if it's
a word, it's a word I like, but you've disabused me of some of my
pet concepts, okay. Here's a really good one, okay. You say the
present moment of Now is not a tiny slither in time between the
ever-flowing past and the present. Now up until I read your work,
your work spoke to me like in so many different ways, but up until
then I would have described the Now as a dimensionless, it was
even a slither, it was dimensionless, but it was packed in there
between a flowing past and a future, right, apparently. But go
ahead and run with that, everybody lives with that, everybody is
living with that line.
PETER DZIUBAN: Trip, that is the thing, and for my money, so to
speak, it's maybe the most important thing that seems to be
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