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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Is it? Okay.<br />

WIZARD: I was reading Revelation for Easter. I was particularly<br />

interested in Chapter 7, but as I was reading through that John<br />

was referring to what Eastern or the Hindu mythology refers to as<br />

Maya, where the illusion as the beast that is, but never was, but<br />

still is. Cool, eh?<br />

PETER DZIUBAN: Yes, it appears to be there. But it's now seen<br />

through, and no longer carries the weight or the seeming influence<br />

that it appeared to do at one time. Yes, definitely.<br />

TRIP: Peter, I've read a lot of books now on the topic, and there<br />

are a couple of things about your work I wanted to just share <strong>with</strong><br />

you. One is that it's very unusual this approach that you've taken<br />

where you close the deal as the <strong>Wizard</strong> here says, on the<br />

assumption that we are already pure consciousness, and you get<br />

the person that needs to get it out of the way. And you start from<br />

the closing proposition, which is I think a really interesting and<br />

useful way of approaching it. But in the simplicity of your<br />

approach, and the purity of it, because you only speak of what is<br />

true about unconditioned awareness, you don't speak about<br />

anything that appears in it being true or false or have much<br />

interest in that. I was thinking that probably your approach is<br />

something that is of greater possible utility to someone who's fairly<br />

mature in their settled down nature shall we say, because it's so<br />

amazingly clean and simple that it almost defies grasping by<br />

somebody who can't believe all the work, and all the stuff that<br />

they've been…<br />

WIZARD: But isn't that spiritual practice itself? Practice is not<br />

doing something to find the Truth, practice is in that absolute<br />

assumption of what is and everything is arising <strong>with</strong>in that. That's<br />

practice.<br />

TRIP: Yes.<br />

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