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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
approach may sound to the few who are deeply established in
presence, Peter Dziuban’s proposition is as heretical to modern
day notions of who we are as today's Hubble telescope view of the
Cosmos is to 16th Century flat world thinking, complete with the
sea monsters that gobble you up when you get near the edge
[Laughs].
So Peter, is your mind blown 24/7 or have you gotten used to the
fact that you are the weightless, limitless, and surface-less reality
that gives rise to everything?
PETER DZIUBAN: Yes. No, I mean, consciousness, present-ness,
awareness, Now-ness, Beingness, all these terms, it is weightless,
immaterial, pure presence and yet it still seems that despite this
clarity, and that by the way is consciousness’ clarity, or being, life's
clarity, not that of Peter, it would be the absence of Peter that is
the clarity. Despite that clarity it still seems as if there is a daily
experience and a body hanging around that has to do things
throughout the day. And even though to consciousness or infinite
presence there is zero distance, as you guys say so beautifully on
your website there, and “distance is dead” I think, was how you
put it, there's just this one Now. It still seems as if some of that
hangs around, as Alfred Aiken used to say, "It's like even when one
is awake, sometimes the effects of a dream seem to linger, and it
takes a while to shake them off". You don't try to get rid of it or do
anything to it, but just abide as this unavoidable present-ness,
inescapable present-ness, whose life this is, and let the other shift
for itself.
TRIP: So, Peter, let me ask you, on the Skype I know you have a
little mouth piece that hangs down, and you can adjust it
closer/further from your mouth, I think if you moved it a little
further away it might be better.
PETER DZIUBAN: Okay. How is that?
TRIP: I think that might be better.
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