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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

NORIO KUSHI: It's in the moment, and it is one <strong>with</strong> the<br />

universe, same purpose as the infinite. [Laughs]<br />

TRIP: All right, tell me if my explanation for that is bogus,<br />

because I gave an answer to the AT&T guy the other day. I said<br />

that, and this is an answer I've heard from other people that<br />

resonated. I say that it's not that we have a purpose, we are the<br />

one itself play acting at being multiple identities, if you will,<br />

multiple forms. And the purpose of it is all simply play and the<br />

enjoyment of waking up over and over again to the fact that in fact<br />

not all these multiple entities. And it's only through this play<br />

acting of dividing itself that the one is able to fully enjoy itself.<br />

WIZARD: <strong>The</strong>re's no goal.<br />

TRIP: But am I BS-ing myself here, is that just a bunch of…<br />

WIZARD: If there's a goal in there somewhere, that takes you out<br />

of the here and Now and creates an imaginary something in the<br />

future, and an imaginary something that's going to try to reach the<br />

imaginary goal. And that starts the phantom selfing mechanism<br />

going which blinds you to the inherent peace and goal-less-ness<br />

that always already is.<br />

NORIO KUSHI: Yes.<br />

WIZARD: In the stillness and silence, everything is already<br />

fulfilled and still and at peace.<br />

NORIO KUSHI: Yes. Yes, perfect, beautiful.<br />

TRIP: Norio, you have a website,<br />

www.demystifyenlightenment.org , I like that.<br />

WIZARD: Do you have a book?<br />

NORIO KUSHI: Now, Stephen Earl and I are working on a book.<br />

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