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Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

TRIP: I get that, so what's the importance of the fact that it<br />

actually already knows what it's seeking?<br />

NORIO KUSHI: Well the value in being able to see that it's a lie,<br />

it's revealed as a lie. Seeking, if we're hungry or if we're thirsty,<br />

then we seek a drink, water. So in the physical manifest world<br />

there is a place for the capacity to know what we want and seek it<br />

out. <strong>The</strong> phantom self, which exists only as a linguistic distinction<br />

in our thinking, adopts this same pattern and begins seeking<br />

psychologically.<br />

WIZARD: Ah… Yes!<br />

TRIP: And it can never get really the drink that it seeks, even<br />

though it knows unlike the water, which on the physical realm, it<br />

knows it needs and gets and then is satisfied at least temporarily.<br />

NORIO KUSHI: It's nourished, exactly.<br />

TRIP: So that's a healthy kind of seeking, if you will, there's<br />

nothing wrong <strong>with</strong> that.<br />

WIZARD: That's a biological function.<br />

NORIO KUSHI: Yes, exactly. And we should follow that, that<br />

biological urge. If we're thirsty naturally we should take a drink.<br />

And the reason in the email I say phantom self, but in actuality I<br />

often use the term phantom selfing, more as a verb. And the<br />

reason I use it as a verb is because in the silence once I got hit over<br />

the head <strong>with</strong> the cosmic two by four, then the observer observed<br />

all that disappeared, and any concept of that disappeared.<br />

<strong>The</strong>n, as the days went by, more and more was revealed, I don't<br />

even know if revealed is the right word, and I began to see<br />

everything, one begins to perceive everything as energy, a<br />

constantly flowing energy even in what we think are inanimate<br />

objects like rocks, etc.<br />

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