Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
self” we think we are does not exist. The “phantom self” exists
only in our thinking, in our internal dialogue, and is the single
source of all human suffering. By recognizing the illusion of the
phantom self, Norio awakened to complete peace and
unconditional love, a natural state that is humanity’s true nature.
Norio now shares the insights into the human tapestry into which
we’re born and how we may naturally and effortlessly experience
our true nature.
NORIO KUSHI: Sounds great. I could not have said it better
myself.
WIZARD: I remember that vividly, the next day you sent an email
out to me about that, and I just went, Wow, how beautiful.
NORIO KUSHI: Yes, and then I met you at a trade show straight
after that, you and Carol, and we talked a little bit about that as
well.
TRIP: You know what's amazing, Norio, is that you and I have a
very similar life story in the spiritual part of it in that both you and
I were pretty good friends with the Wizard for about 15 years. And
I don't know about you, but I didn't recognize him as some kind of
a wisdom keeper for spiritual Truth. I thought he was just an
ordinary entrepreneur. And he and I didn't talk about any of this
stuff that we're talking about now. And then in 2006, within about
six months, I guess you had that experience in February 2005, but
some time in 2006, I don't keep dates but I had the same kind of
experience that you had, although I didn't stop thinking for weeks,
but I had a meltdown. So then all of a sudden I had the ears to
hear what the Wizard had been saying, I don't know if he'd been
talking about it.
WIZARD: Just ordinary stuff.
TRIP: So that's pretty cool, so we're on the same track there. So
you say you were never interested in religion, spirituality,
meditation, or any kind of discipline.
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