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<strong>Conversations</strong> <strong>with</strong> <strong>Avant</strong>-<strong>garde</strong> <strong>Sages</strong><br />

download it for free (http://endless-satsang.com/free-ebooksfree-spiritual-books.htm)<br />

NIRMALA: If somebody wants a paperback copy, they can also<br />

buy one on Amazon, but of course there are unavoidable costs <strong>with</strong><br />

a paperback book so we do charge for those. Part of the Truth,<br />

part of the reality is the practical needs of anyone living in this<br />

world. So to me the ideal is a balance. And this includes allowing<br />

people to practically support the teaching through donations for<br />

the mentoring session, or through the purchase price of some of<br />

the books including the paperback versions. And then to balance<br />

that out, I also make the teaching freely available when it's not<br />

possible for someone to pay. I have had people that can only<br />

donate $10 for a mentoring session, and that's great, any amount<br />

they can truly afford is fine. But the balanced perspective includes<br />

the recognition that there is also a practical financial reality that<br />

needs to be addressed. I often joke that even when you realize that<br />

there's no separate Self, the credit card company still thinks there<br />

is. <strong>The</strong>y keep sending the bill. [Laughs]<br />

WIZARD: I was in business for years and I never saw any conflict<br />

in my business enterprise, in fact I think it was profoundly<br />

responsible for the business' success that we stayed principle<br />

centered as a business, and our customers loved us, we loved our<br />

customers, everybody was on one team. As I was retiring I was<br />

thinking about giving all my money to the Ashram in India, then I<br />

met Ganesan, and he said, no, he said, you take that money and do<br />

the work yourself [laughs].<br />

NIRMALA: <strong>The</strong>re's a wonderful story about when Ramesh was<br />

<strong>with</strong> Nisargadatta, and at one point Ramesh who was a vice<br />

president of a large bank in India made a very large donation to<br />

Nisargadatta. Nisargadatta took him aside, and all Nisargadatta<br />

wanted to know was would this donation cause Ramesh any<br />

hardship? Ramesh assured him that there was absolutely no<br />

hardship. And then Nisargadatta said, okay, then it was okay for<br />

Ramesh to give a large sum.<br />

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