Conversations with Avant-garde Sages - The Wizard LLC

Conversations with Avant-garde Sages
NIRMALA: I finally settled on the term spiritual teacher because I
needed some way to describe what I do. It's not because it
ultimately describes everything I do, or even that spiritual teacher
is a completely clear description of what I do. In one sense, it is
not teaching anyone anything as it's not so much giving someone
knowledge or transmitting something to them. Instead in this way
of teaching there is a pointing to something that's already present
in them.
WIZARD: And you're bringing that out?
NIRMALA: Yes, I'm just helping them recognize their own
capacity, their own inner wisdom, and their own inner awakeness.
And so it's not anything I ever give anybody, hopefully I just help
them notice or discover it.
TRIP: That's the only way to go. And we've been discussing the
business side of spiritualism. Our listeners probably get bored
with my talk about this, but we agree with one of our recent guests,
Puppetji, that prosperity is a good thing, and if it derives from
ones spiritual activity, that's fine. But the Wizard and I both feel
there's an ideal way of going about one's spiritual commerce if you
will, and I'm really impressed by your approach. You give away
your books, your videos, your audio recordings, and your
teachings, and you ask your clients to pay for private counseling
only on an ability to pay basis. Now I think that's the high road,
not necessarily in terms of some moral calculus, but how it makes
the one who's operating in that way feel, you know? It just feels
wonderful, doesn't it?
NIRMALA: If the Truth is what opens your heart, and the Truth is
what softens and expands your sense of love, and joy, and peace,
then it definitely feels truer to offer stuff freely.
WIZARD: We've got your book That is That on our website with a
link. If you just click on the book cover in our free library and it
takes you to the endless-satsang.com webpage where they can
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